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1 名前：普通の人：2007/06/03 11:33:00 ID:ZmQLOhJzLg: 再度本家で宣伝したいんですが、
私ですと絵が描けないので、前回みたいな白いままになってしまいます。
そうなると、現在皆様が「最後の一枚をー」とやっているところに
水を差してしまうことになる気がするので、
もしよろしければ、どなたか絵と共にここのことを宣伝していただけないでしょうか。
誠に自分勝手なお願いではありますが、よろしければお願いいたします。
36 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 03:01:00 ID:..rMWlQmzY: もうぐったりでの直接宣伝はいいだろ
普通の人氏の尽力と既に移ってきた住人のおかげでだいぶ住みやすい場所になってきてるし
これなら後継を名乗れなてくも、この先レイアウトや色が変わっても居心地と雰囲気はだいぶ維持出来ると思われ
ここを知れなかった難民も32氏の方法で宣伝すればかなり救済できるんじゃないか？

漏れも少し考えてみた。
保管庫作らないか？一時期だけ、本家が完全停止するまでくらいの寿命のやつ
ここに通うつもり(本人意思要確認)の絵師対象でさ
絵師が自ら作ってくれるのが最高だが、作ってもいいが自分では無理という絵師で他人が作っても構わないという人には
こことか絵板(仮)で許可をもらって、名乗りをあげた有志が作る形で作り、その絵師の移住先がここだという事をこそっと書いておく。
その保管庫を教える為に本家の[HOME]欄にurl(勿論保管庫の)を書き込むという宣伝なら直接的じゃないしよさげじゃないか？

...まぁ実はぐったりで保存し損ねた絵をみんなから集めてコンプできる場があったらいいな...って浮かんだ漏れのアホな夢から出たアイデアなんだけどさ(笑
37 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 06:11:00 ID:ORD99W8n0c: >>36
ぐったりの保管庫作ってぐったりと関係有りませんとか言えないだろう。
38 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 07:37:00 ID:suhAOxtQmg: その絵師の絵の保管庫としてならいいんじゃない？
39 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 07:49:00 ID:suhAOxtQmg: そうか、つまり本家で、
「絵師や他のみんなのサイト知りたい！」
って言ってスレ立てて、ココへのリンクを貼ってくれた人たちがURL出せばいいのか。

と言うか、ココへのリンク抜きでもみんなのサイト知りたいし。
で、そういう形で宣伝すれば問題ないでしょうってことで。
40 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 10:11:00 ID:uRYyyW1sBU: >>35
に同意
ぐったり板見てた人はほぼこちらも覗いていると考えていいと思うし
絵板自体への集客はもう十分出来てるはず
(覗きはしても描くかどうかはあくまで絵師次第なわけだし)
宣伝するとしても現時点で他に何を目的として宣伝するのかが不明

あとやたらぐったり板に近づけようとしなくてもと思う
後続みたいな形で同じような板にしたいという気持ちはわかるけど
依存しすぎ、拘り過ぎるのもどうなのかと思う。

保管庫作りたいとか言ってる人は意見言うだけじゃなく自分で行動起こせば？

ここの議論は正直、結果自己満足的な意見を書く人も混じってて引く
描きたくてもここの議論見てると描く気失せます。
41 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 13:29:00 ID:BGyxfXIwbI: >>39
同意です。

とりあえずここのPRとか抜きに
「サイト持ってる絵師さんはURL教えて下さい」スレを立てよう。

んでもって、ここ見ててリンク貼ってもいいって絵師さんは
テキストリンクでも何でも貼ってあげたらいいのでは？

もうぐったり板で宣伝は無理っぽい気がするし、他所で地道にやってっても
この感じだとちゃんと人は集まると思うよ。

とりあえずぐたりにスレ立ててくるぜ！
42 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 14:08:00 ID:8jxnsFRIRA: >>41
こちらよりに同意です。
変に小細工しての向こうでのＰＲは印象が悪くなるだけだから
純粋に絵師さんのサイトだけ教えて貰おうってことで。

絵師さんにしてもこの中途半端な状況じゃ
すぐには自サイトにこちらのＵＲＬは貼りずらいと思うよ。
今だと派閥宣言みたいにとられかねないし
お世話になった板とこれからお世話になる板の双方に遺恨は残したくないだろうし。
板の方向性が決定して、ほとぼり冷めた頃に自主的に宣伝するかどうかぐらいでしょ。

いろいろ焦りすぎてる感じがするのでゆっくり地道に行った方がいいと思う。
43 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 17:13:00 ID:suhAOxtQmg: 避難所があるのに宣伝出来ないって、
いくら感情論だからって多くの難民を出した板の対応としては
悲しすぎると思うのは俺だけだろうか。

って本家で書こうと思ったら、何故か串規制とか言われて書き込めなかった。
以前本家でこっちを支持する発言をしたからかな…？
44 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 17:49:00 ID:SzQbu/KRXY: そもそも、本家が避難所の募集をしなかったのが悪い。

あれほどのアクセス数を誇るサイトが、絵師と住民の行く末に非常に
無関心ってのはどういう事かと。

勝手にやれば？本家は制約しませんよ状態だったし。

本家主導の避難所ができりゃ、スムーズに移行できて揉め事は発生
しなかったはず。
45 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 20:57:00 ID:2NtnftCfUY: 本家が避難所を作らなかったことが問題視されてるけど、
本家管理人衆は、常連絵師や住人に対してのケアは必要ないと考えているのでは。
自分がかねてより疑問だったのは、
「同人サークルの共有絵板なのに管理人衆の投稿がほとんどない」こと。
レスもほとんどなかったし。

こっから先は憶測なのだけど。
ぐったり板が、ぐたり屋メンバー以外のメンツで繁栄してしまったこと自体が
もしかしたら意図に合ってなかったのかも･･･。
仲間内で寄り合おうと思って作った場所だったのに、
メンバー以外の人が増えちゃって、本来の所有者が来にくくなってた、みたいな。
もし本当にそうなら不幸なことだったと思う。

しかし、オエビ利用者は板を選ぶとき、「誰のところで描きたいか」じゃなくて
「どんな仲間がいるところで描きたいか」ではないかな？
仮にぐったり板が、ぐたり屋ファンの寄り合い所だったなら、
ココが「なりすまし」と危険視されることもあろうが、
実際、ぐったりに行ってもぐたり屋さんの絵はほとんど見たことがない。
だから、ぐたり屋さんのファンだから通ってたワケじゃないんだよ。

つまり、最近のぐったり板の雰囲気を作ったのは本家管理人ではなく、常連絵師と住人だと思う。
そのメンツが集まって育てているこの板を「なりすまし後継板」と言うのは
つくづくヒドイなあと思う。
46 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 21:07:00 ID:kki8oulkag: つまり、ぐったり板管理人はぐったり板のコンテンツたる絵師と
住民にはあまり興味がない・・・と

でも普通の人氏宛の本家メールの「フィッシングサイト」云々の
くだりは、この絵板が急速にぐったり板化してる事に対する警戒
かと思ったが
47 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 22:12:00 ID:2NtnftCfUY: >つまり、ぐったり板管理人はぐったり板のコンテンツたる絵師と住民にはあまり興味がない

そんな感じする。
そして、住人だった我々も、ぐたり屋絵師ではない人たちに萌えさせられてた。
我々も、ぐたり屋さんそのものに興味はなかったんだねぇ････

そういや、ぐったり板を共有してた何人かのサイト主は、
自分とこに絵板持ってても誘導はいっさいなかったね。
むしろ、「もしよかったらうちの板使って」を言ってくれたのは別の人たちばかり。
それどころか本家さんたちは、休止の告知したらすぐにいっせいにリンク外してた。
まるで追いかけてこないようにリンク消したみたいに、今は感じる。
この状況で「フィッシングサイト」云々って、何を釣られるつもりなの？
48 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 23:07:00 ID:suhAOxtQmg: さぼうるに誘導したら消された…
49 名前：名無し：2007/06/18 23:49:00 ID:0qpjhQ5Z22: そりゃやっちゃダメだった･･･
50 名前：名無し：2007/06/19 00:41:00 ID:gh83D/Rxmo: >>48
それは多少礼のない行為だったんじゃないかなぁ
気持ちはわからなくないけど間接的な宣伝になるわけだし
消されるのも仕方ないんじゃ
51 名前：名無し：2007/06/19 00:44:00 ID:evz3OfN58k: >>48
しかし　その気持ちも分かる
52 名前：名無し：2007/06/19 05:15:00 ID:Eq.cY8Q62g: >つまり、ぐったり板管理人はぐったり板のコンテンツたる絵師と住民にはあまり興味がない

本家管理人のぐたり屋絵師は全員お絵かき掲示板＠エロゲ板の住人だったわけだし、
1年もしないうちにぐったりを使わなくなってふたばに描いていたりしてた
本来はその時点で板の役目は終わっていたはず
逆にその状態で今までずっと続いていたのが不思議だ
今回もたぶんぐたり屋絵師だけで仕切り直すつもりだと思う
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